My RV failed it's mot

[derekkitcar]

I thought I had finished my RV took it for it's mot today it failed!
all seemed well as I was going to the mot station then the was a loud knocking noise from the back end stopped couldn't see anything wrong? during the test we could see that the axle had twisted s#@t. The axle tube has rotated in the casing looks as if it was caused by a couple of failed void bushes on one side. I don't know if this is repairable it means a complete stripdown of the back end, there go my great plans of taking it to the Exeter kit car show. anyone got a mk3 cortina axle they don't want?

Derek

[Peter]

What a bummer, still better to fail then than when bowling along the road, whole idea of the MoT really.
Must be loads of axles out there, I think most Cortina ones with fit too. Void bushes can be a pain to change but if you use the drill and hacksaw method it's easy, well easier. Should be able to do a swap and bushes in a day. I guess anyone in Derek's area of Pentre, Rhondda, Welsh Wales, look you, isn't it, who would like to give a hand or/and an axle would be welcome,

[derekkitcar]

Hmmm taken me two days just to get the axle off (some of the bolts needed to be cut off). I haven't started on the bushes yet and I still need to repair or replace the axle

[Peter]

I always assume the nuts will have to cut off on a job that's under a car, in fact I usually don't even bother with spanners, just chop off. angle grinder and new disc ready.
take it you know the drill and cut bush removal method but just in case one of our thousands of viewers doesn't, here goes.
put a 8mm drill bit in the drill and drill out all the rubber between the inner and outer bush, remove the inner tube.
Thread a hacksaw blade through the hole and reconnect to the hacksaw frame, cut the outer sleeve though, it may need cutting on the opposite side too if rusted in, remove the hacksaw and tap out the bush.
Clean the bush housing so no rust of crud remains and press the new one in, if you don't have a big vice or press use a large bolt, 2 x big washers (or bit of steel with a hole in) and wind it in.

[derekkitcar]

I managed the larger bushes ok with a void bush remover but I will have to use your method for the smaller ones (the tool won't fit, too big) I will replace with poly bushes already sent for them and new bolts while the arms are out I will modify the lower ones to give more clearance between the axle and the bump stops there is only about 30mm at the moment,
I still haven't found a replacment axle yet though! may be able to get the old one repaired if we can twist it back to it's proper location then get it tig welded mild steel to cast iron I'll have to find out if that can be done?

Derek

[Gary]

My bush tool didn't fit either it was too big..so I used an old socket and a couple of washers to fab-up and new tool using a combination of the parts from the tool as well. took a little bit to sort but it got the bushes out with out any damage to the parts.

[derekkitcar]

I thought of that but the bolt on thr tool wasn't long enough got to find a longer bolt and try again, Ho the joys of kit car motoring

[terryrob]

Not good Derrick, but not too big a problem just takes more time to get it on the road. If I find a axle I'l let you know.

[Gary]

Oct 1, 2013 7:43:08 GMT derekkitcar said:

I thought of that but the bolt on thr tool wasn't long enough got to find a longer bolt and try again, Ho the joys of kit car motoring

Now that you mention it I did use some threaded rod M10 with a couple of nuts locked on to allow it to be held, as my bolt also wasn't long enough

[derekkitcar]

well that didn't work I don't have a socket big enough then I snapped 4 drill bits trying to drill the rubber out as Peter suggested? back to the drawing board

[Peter]

you only need to drill slowly so the rubber has a chance to clear, otherwise it just binds up, mind you to snap a drill that size they are either 10 for a quid or to small.
Just so you can get the hacksaw blade through will be enough so you can cut the outer sleeve.

[derekkitcar]

Yep too small only 4mm £7 quid for ten resonable one's, I;ll try some larger ones on the week end if I get a chance.

[Deleted]

probably too late but this is on ebay just now


www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sykes-Pickavant-Void-Bush-Remover-Replacer-No-081000-for-Ford-Cortina-/190917421800?pt=UK_Hand_Tools_Equipment&hash=item2c7390aae8


designed for the Cortina bushes ... nice and cheap too ..


Brett

[Deleted]

Hi, to hear about your troubles! If you do manage to get it sorted and go to Exeter drop me a message and I will try to be there at the same time.
all the best.

[derekkitcar]

Brett

Yep waching that one i'll bid close to the end


Doz

I'll be at Exiter no matter what if my rv isn't ready I'm going to scrounge a lift with terry he just doesn't know it yet!

Tried turning the axle tube back to it's proper position with a couple of stilsons I think every bone in my body poped out of place but that axle tube diden't move a fraction

[Deleted]

what is the difference between a mk5 and mk3 axle?

[Gary]

As far as I am aware the cortina's all had the same running gear you normally only find different styles of brake s it was body styling that was different.

[derekkitcar]

I think you are right on that one Gary not 100% about it though anyonr else know?

[Deleted]

I might have a mk5 one that I might be able to convince my Dad to let go of, it was on my jeep before the change, but it was dismantled, cleaned and painted, I think that it had new wheel bearings and brakes (cylinders, shoes and fitting kit) and a polybush set. I gave it to Dad as we were thinking of another project but that may never happen now. It was apparently from a 1.3 estate as it needed to be low ratio for the big wheels and tires. If you are interested I can ask him?!?

[derekkitcar]

yes please I have been told it's not possible to weld cast to mild steel even if i could rotate it back into the correct position

[derekkitcar]

Managed to buy the void bush remover on ebay proud[1]so the bushes are out of the radius arms still needed a braker bar with an extension bar (ho my poor aching back)all I need now is an axle

[Deleted]

I should be home at the weekend so will see what he says.

[derekkitcar]

Doz

I have sent you a private message.

Derek

[derekkitcar]

Got one It's off a 1600 mk5 estate in needs a bit of work, cleaning painting oil seals void bush removal etc. The axle ratio should be ok I think I just need the time to work on it now.

[Deleted]

glad you got one looks like that void bush remover will be getting some overtime

Brett

[Deleted]

Good luck with the new axle Derek.

Hope you get to Exeter, Im away, so hope to see you in Kenilworth next year in your Jeep

Another Eagle back on the road.....

[terryrob]

Where did you get it Derrick, local ?. Check the ratio as the smaller engined estates had the better suited 4.4:1. Anyhow your back on the road, good man.

[derekkitcar]

I got it from a scrapyard in cannock I was half way there anyway as I went to the Malvern classic car show (rubbish all mini stuff)The ratio should be ok as it's off a mk5 1600 estate? I think it needs new wheel bearings though.
The void bush remover was a realy good buy just the two on the axle too get out now. hoping to have it on the road for December

[derekkitcar]

well that was easy void bushed in the diff casing flew out diden'e evan have to use a bar.

[Gary]

Oct 15, 2013 17:28:15 GMT derekkitcar said:

I got it from a scrapyard in Cannock. The ratio should be ok as it's off a mk5 1600 estate? I think it needs new wheel bearings though.

Should be fine that's what we have on ours....It's what Eagle recommended to go with the 2.0 pinto engine when I built ours.