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Post by Charlie Francis on Mar 10, 2023 11:03:22 GMT
Yes i am trying to view it on a "real" computer as well, all be it running windows 11, however with 64 Meg of Ram and an I5-10400 CPU @ 2.9GHz I feel it should have managed to run a simple video clip Ive also tried it on two other "real" PC's one running Windows 11 and one running Windows 10. All three are using Microsoft Edge. I've now gone onto the eagle owners club page and eventually found it on the facebook page, however the link in your post above doesn't take you you to it, but the one below does www.facebook.com/graham.wood.522/videos/1249334112361262
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Post by Graham Wood on Mar 10, 2023 11:16:02 GMT
I would be happy to return my Newark 2022 trophies to the club ( furthest distance travelled and best RV ) for recycling. Would only need to replace the small plaque on the front of each. Might it be an idea in future to have trophies retained by the winner for one year only anyway? Many clubs do this and either the plaque alone is replaced annually or, if there is room on the plaque, the plaque is retained and the current year's winner is added to the list of winners. Separately, if a new larger/ longer flag and flagpole is needed then I would like to buy it for the club, if the cost is not unreasonable. My feeling is that it is very important to have an outstanding quality feature, visible from a distance, to identify and attract visitors to the club stand. A mediocre flag suggests a mediocre club. Many many thanks for your donation Last year, which was 6 times the next largest donation at the A.G.M. and about 2.1 times larger than mine, prior.
Yes, your thoughts are in line with mine, but as you have experienced, some people don't make it to the shows, therefore some trophies wont make it back to the show. People dont like the expence of getting suitable packaging and spending money to reurn trophies, some will have sold their Eagle and not be bothered to return, which is why I decided to let the winners keep the trophies ( They were inexpensive, and near me )
I used to run the first sucsessful NOVA owners club, many years ago, so know how things work, cost me a fortune, with windscreen stickers, 6 monthly news letter, etc. Unfortunately, i'm running out of cash as am restoring a house I recently bought, and didn't sell anything to get it ( i don't live in yet ) So have all that expense and 2 council tax bills and all utilities, and 4 classic vehicles to maintain and some to restore.( 5 if you include the Eagle ss )
I will be at least a year to 18 months before funds become available to me, I dabble in property ( and litigations for leaseholders ).which takes years to ( 1 to 6 ) to get my money back. I don't have a paid job by the way.
anyway, let me think about your 2 offers, and I'll get back to you.
Thanks Graham
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Post by Graham Wood on Mar 10, 2023 11:28:17 GMT
Yes i am trying to view it on a "real" computer as well, all be it running windows 11, however with 64 Meg of Ram and an I5-10400 CPU @ 2.9GHz I feel it should have managed to run a simple video clip Ive also tried it on two other "real" PC's one running Windows 11 and one running Windows 10. All three are using Microsoft Edge. I've now gone onto the eagle owners club page and eventually found it on the facebook page, however the link in your post above doesn't take you you to it, but the one below does www.facebook.com/graham.wood.522/videos/1249334112361262Yes, forgot to mention, Microsoft Edge DOES NOT work properly with pictures and videos ( I mentined this on here before ) My computer has Microsoft Edge and I found it not fit or purpose, so I use Firefox, and have no problems.
Microsoft Edge is not backwards compatable either it seems on older jpg pictures.
It's Microsoft Edge, not this site.
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Post by gromit on Mar 10, 2023 12:58:19 GMT
As i have stated previously the website needs a total overhaul or even a fresh start to work on ALL platforms and devices! It is totally blinkered and backward to have only 1 platform and then specific programmes that can fully display website. We need our website and other club info to be totally future proof! The Desktop P.C. is relic and very very few people have them, 99% of people have a laptop, macbook, ipad or smart phone. The website needs to be FULLY useable on all these devices. As mentioned previously about trophies, if you want to persist with this its going to be a very costly exercise. My suggestion of certificate awards would be cost effective and more fair if the categories are selected out of a hat. This would be most inclusive to the entire group of members instead of same 3 people winning same categories! Flags and banners etc ive already mentioned that the chap who made the banner i brought last year has offered to help with design/advice etc of any flags, banners, marquee prints, clothing.
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Post by Charlie Francis on Mar 10, 2023 13:20:15 GMT
Graham to be an annoyance but the link doeant work in google Chrome. Nor does it work in the coppy of Firefox I just downloaded and installed. I also have to disagree with gromit re the workhorse of the computing world. Laptop's, macbook's, ipad's and smart phone's are all nice little toys, but for sheer performance and downright "grunt" a desktop PC wins hands down, in fairness my mirosoft surface pro is running exactly the same software as my desktop, it just cant support 3 off HD 48" screens along with multiple peripherals and 4 multi TB SSD
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Post by Graham Wood on Mar 10, 2023 14:54:07 GMT
1 As i have stated previously the website needs a total overhaul or even a fresh start to work on ALL platforms and devices! My suggestion of certificate awards would be cost effective and more fair if the categories are selected out of a hat. This would be most inclusive to the entire group of members instead of same 3 people winning same categories! 2 Mar 10, 2023 12:58:19 GMT gromit said: Flags and banners etc ive already mentioned that the chap who made the banner i brought last year has offered to help with design/advice etc of any flags, banners, marquee prints, clothing. Edited = spelling corrected + words added - in red
1 To get an independant website ( .proboards.com/ ) would need proboards.com to revamp its web pages, something we cannot insist on, nor alter, and would they listen to us, one of 100s of thousands ?
To get a website compatable with all browsers, and all mobile phone operating systems, even eagleownersclub.org.uk would need a paid for web designer, to have it work on all platforms, this we can never afford. All I know is, Microsoft edge does not work well, but my copy of firefox works on all webpages, but most web designers would test their web pages on microsoft edge and 2 or three mobile phone systems, and be ABLE to rectfy any problems, and they make them to suit microsoft edge also. that is something I cannot do on proboards or eagleownersclub.org.uk.
If someone has all mobile the phones with the different operating systems and a computer who can design, without any flaws, a forum and web page that works with EVERYTHING, then please contact me, but your work will have to be FREE, and with time constraints also, and I know it wont happen
In the early days of the internet, and mobile phones, I used to have to WRITE the instructions for a web page to work before the introduction of "Build your own website" software. I also went on the first mobile phone site that would do text version of a web site, no pictures, and was sucessful. but now there are so many derivitives, my expetise is none existant in todays code as I have more important work to do ( it would be like doing a 3 year full time law school degree just to write one letter to a company to complain, and set out what you would do to obtain satisfaction, and never have to write another legal letter again )
No, at present we can't change proboards.com .
2 Yes I remember, which is why I have said I will get back to people, after dscussing it with the committee / members / financial stability / reusable trophies / not let just a few people have to incur all the costs etc, etc
We are Too SMALL to get everything today.
If chrisbailey is reading this, any suggestions ?
Regards Graham
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Post by gromit on Mar 11, 2023 15:12:05 GMT
Graham do we own outright " eagleownersclub.org.uk ". Is that the only web address we have?
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Post by Graham Wood on Mar 12, 2023 17:55:49 GMT
Graham do we own outright " eagleownersclub.org.uk ". Is that the only web address we have? I will send you a private email much later tonight on this.
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Post by chrisbailey on Mar 12, 2023 19:22:11 GMT
You can embed videos into posts if you get the cotrect link. Phones should also be able to view the videos. The forum is provided by proboards, it works although is not as new as other forum providers.
The website is another thing entirely. Most websites today are built using WordPress. WordPress makes building a website really easy as there is no html code knowledge necessary. Its more like creating a blog. I dont know anything about how the website is hosted. If its a paid for host, chances are they support WordPress.
I created a free website using wordpress. It took a day or so to get the design I wanted to look nice. It displays nice on phones as much as it does on a PC. Anybody could do it.
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Post by terryrob on Mar 12, 2023 22:32:36 GMT
I agree with Gromit about the trophies, the same few people will win all the time. Its not like we have 100 members turning up from all corners of britain. Certificates are the way to go, don't need returning and can be cherrished by the winner for life.
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Post by Graham Wood on Mar 13, 2023 2:43:20 GMT
I agree with Gromit about the trophies, the same few people will win all the time. Its not like we have 100 members turning up from all corners of britain. Certificates are the way to go, don't need returning and can be cherrished by the winner for life. Then you still have the same people who win all the time - with certificates.
So do we have to do away with "BEST SS" AND "BEST RV" ? ( comments open to all Eagle owners )
Or if you won it last year, you can't enter for the next year, but can after that ? I don't know of any car shows including concourse events that say you can't win "BEST" every year. Or do you go the "woke" way, and it's every one gets a trophy or certificate day, so as to be "Inclusive" and "diverse".
But bear in mind, I donated the trophies for people to keep permanently, last year , so no need to return. I have plaques of car shows I have won from car clubs ( the small one shown is from a small attendace as small as the EAGLE OWNERS CLUB ) - for me to keep forever, and may have to donate again this year. ( £ 65 ) They are FREE. ( for the moment )
Just my thoughts. Graham. GUESTS MAY NOT BE ABLE TO SEE OR ENLARGE PHOTOS - shown below to forum members only
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Post by Charlie Francis on Mar 13, 2023 9:10:46 GMT
For me i think we should keep the "Best" categories for a couple of reasons 1) It gives anyone building/re furbishing a vehicle something to aim for along with the recognition of their peers of a job well done and 2) I'm aiming to be winning the "Best SS" category in a Year or twos time
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Post by Graham Wood on Mar 13, 2023 11:02:05 GMT
For me i think we should keep the "Best" categories for a couple of reasons 1) It gives anyone building/re furbishing a vehicle something to aim for along with the recognition of their peers of a job well done and 2) I'm aiming to be winning the "Best SS" category in a Year or twos time Exactly, which I should have said in my previous post, but at 4 am - brain not working, but had to re-write the post so as not to sound too offensive / defensive.
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Post by gromit on Mar 13, 2023 20:49:24 GMT
I think we can keep best of categories if we change to certification, however it will be same 2 people winning for several years!!!! I also said at the time that we should have a large selection of categories that are less serious and rigid and more fun. These categories could include for example : Most donor vehicles used, best tool kit, most unusual adaption, most ingenious addition, furthest travelled under own steam, etc etc. The more suggestions the better, these can be selected out of a hat. This keeps the whole thing more fun and inclusive and potentially gives any new arrival to a show the opportunity of winning. An added benefit of doing this is that these certificates could form part of the vehicles history to be passed on and may keep a vehicle in the club.
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Post by Charlie Francis on Mar 14, 2023 8:50:45 GMT
The additional categories sound good, guess we just need to be careful we don't end up with more categories than we have vehicles. How about the greatest progress made on a build/restoration. Based on photo's and diary entry logged on the site, this would hopefully encourage people to log their progress and make for interesting reads for other members.
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Post by terryrob on Mar 14, 2023 23:35:39 GMT
I agree with Gromit about the trophies, the same few people will win all the time. Its not like we have 100 members turning up from all corners of britain. Certificates are the way to go, don't need returning and can be cherrished by the winner for life. Then you still have the same people who win all the time - with certificates.
So do we have to do away with "BEST SS" AND "BEST RV" ? ( comments open to all Eagle owners )
Or if you won it last year, you can't enter for the next year, but can after that ? I don't know of any car shows including concourse events that say you can't win "BEST" every year. Or do you go the "woke" way, and it's every one gets a trophy or certificate day, so as to be "Inclusive" and "diverse".
But bear in mind, I donated the trophies for people to keep permanently, last year , so no need to return. I have plaques of car shows I have won from car clubs ( the small one shown is from a small attendace as small as the EAGLE OWNERS CLUB ) - for me to keep forever, and may have to donate again this year. ( £ 65 ) They are FREE. ( for the moment )
Just my thoughts. Graham. GUESTS MAY NOT BE ABLE TO SEE OR ENLARGE PHOTOS
Correct, you still have the same people winning lol,,,,,, but it doesn't cost anywhere near what trophies cost. Especially if we add more catagories
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Post by terryrob on Mar 14, 2023 23:38:34 GMT
The additional categories sound good, guess we just need to be careful we don't end up with more categories than we have vehicles. How about the greatest progress made on a build/restoration. Based on photo's and diary entry logged on the site, this would hopefully encourage people to log their progress and make for interesting reads for other members. Now we are getting somewhere good idea about the progress catagory.
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Post by Graham Wood on Mar 15, 2023 0:33:53 GMT
Prizes at shows should be awarded to those that attend the shows. That's the whole point of trophys and prizes at shows.
By all means,award someone something for best endeavours at home.
If someone wishes to colate all the current / past builds, then please put your name forward. This means trawling through all the build threads and contacting the people, going back at a minimum of 3 years.to assertain if they are still working on their eagle / given up / or sold their Eagle
( Prizes / certificates are not applicable to none members of the "club", of which there are a few.currently none members with builds and rebuilds, unless members wish to finance awards to none members )
All points raised have been good but need very careful consideration before enacting.
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Post by gromit on Mar 15, 2023 22:00:57 GMT
Just to clarify on my previous comment, I didnt mean an exhaustive list of categories that all get a certificate!!! I listed a few off the top of my tired and alcohol starved mind ( feel free to add many more ) that would be picked out of a hat at random. Possibly 3 0r 4 categories at each show as an opening suggestion. I do agree with Graham about for only being for members who turn up at shows with their vehicle, kinda defeats the whole point of what we are trying to achieve otherwise. Getting some club logo'd certificates to be filled in as required wouldnt be a very expensive endeavour.
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Post by Graham Wood on Mar 15, 2023 23:50:29 GMT
Just to clarify on my previous comment, I didnt mean an exhaustive list of categories that all get a certificate!!! I listed a few off the top of my tired and alcohol starved mind ( feel free to add many more ) that would be picked out of a hat at random. Possibly 3 0r 4 categories at each show as an opening suggestion. I do agree with Graham about for only being for members who turn up at shows with their vehicle, kinda defeats the whole point of what we are trying to achieve otherwise. Getting some club logo'd certificates to be filled in as required wouldnt be a very expensive endeavour. Yes I can easily get some Certificates printed probably free, once categories are identified, although lets be reasonable about the categories - but - some meaningful and some silly ? Ideas on a post card please. everyone welcome to contribute, and maybe on another thread ?
OR send to info@eagleownersclub.org.uk and committee will notifiy all of the outcome of chosen categories.
Note-- we have 20 potential members if everyone renews membership, BUT we have 50 none members on this forum that have been on the forum in the last 14 months. - we need those 50 to either, get an eagle, finish their eagle, get to a show, and most importantly, help the club survive by joining the club at membership info ( eagleownersclub.org.uk/membership.htm )
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Post by Charlie Francis on Mar 16, 2023 8:19:29 GMT
I sort of agree about certificates/trophies being only for people at the show, however in the case of the one I suggested i.e. most progress over the year. Clearly this may mean the vehicle isn't in a state to bring it to a show. My Eagle at the moment is up on concrete breeze blocks so I can get under it. My point was to try and recognise all of the work that goes into restoring a vehicle, before its show ready. Also I don't see the need to trawl back through the archives, simply post on here that this will become a category and if the builder wants to be considered for any kind of award then its up to them to provide the evidence of work done.
Totally agree we need to get the membership up and a £10 wont exactly break the bank. On another note is there a way to donate to the club ?
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Post by Graham Wood on Mar 16, 2023 9:58:41 GMT
I sort of agree about certificates/trophies being only for people at the show, however in the case of the one I suggested i.e. most progress over the year. Clearly this may mean the vehicle isn't in a state to bring it to a show. My Eagle at the moment is up on concrete breeze blocks so I can get under it. My point was to try and recognise all of the work that goes into restoring a vehicle, before its show ready. Also I don't see the need to trawl back through the archives, simply post on here that this will become a category and if the builder wants to be considered for any kind of award then its up to them to provide the evidence of work done. Totally agree we need to get the membership up and a £10 wont exactly break the bank. On another note is there a way to donate to the club ? Yes all good points.
Will sort something out.
Re donations, a plain brown envelope handed to me in a pub will be fine - trust me..
But I was thinking on going on the lines of the Nova owners club web site where they ask for donations.
For donations, if people still have our bank account details, just use that and reference the transaction "Donation ( then Name )" and confirm via email.
G.W.
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Post by Charlie Francis on Mar 16, 2023 17:45:07 GMT
Graham hi Ohh are you a doctor then I think I have your bank account details that I paid my subscription to but not sure if there is a different one or not
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Post by Graham Wood on Mar 17, 2023 13:17:04 GMT
Graham hi Ohh are you a doctor then I think I have your bank account details that I paid my subscription to but not sure if there is a different one or not I don't get the "DOCTOR" thing !
You need all committe members to go into an HSBC bank and prove who the are, which may be difficult as my HSBC bank have deleted all cashiers, and have just one person avilable for anything, and are not available in some towns, so when I get a chance, will open an Eagle owners club account in my name only -- the easiest way to open a club bank account and transfer all funds from my account to that one. Then get other names intrduced so that it's not just me that controls the money ( not much money ) AND eventually make it a Limited company for the Eagle owners club which still needs Articles of Association, and Memoramdum of associations, and the clubs constitition added to the Articles of associaton. A dunting task, entailing lots of typing. -- lots --
Fortunately I have a few Articles of Association, and Memoramdum of associations, from previous companies I have been the Company secretary of, and for none profit organisations, so no need to look for those. - but it all takes time, so bear with me.
Am currently preparing 2 separate court docs for --- whatever -- so when they are finished, can start on the Eagle club ones
G.W.
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Post by Charlie Francis on Mar 17, 2023 18:26:14 GMT
Trust me - I'm a doctor. Not sure where it came from but it was some comedy sketch or other.
OK re bank account, so if i wanted to make a donation, for now do i just pay it into your account and let you know i have done so ?
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Post by Graham Wood on Mar 17, 2023 20:06:14 GMT
Trust me - I'm a doctor. Not sure where it came from but it was some comedy sketch or other. OK re bank account, so if i wanted to make a donation, for now do i just pay it into your account and let you know i have done so ? Yes, if you can't find the email re bank account just email info@eagleownersclub.org.uk and i'll forward it.
I have yet to add a page to the web site combining memberships with donations.
All donations are displayed on the list of members which is distributed to the committee, and forum manager. A few members don't want their details made public ( no email addresses or phone numbers.) and this is noted on the membership list, so this info is at present private, but the committee are well aware of donations received.
We had in excess of £ 500 donated last year by 8 members / none members including myself ( including one members £ 300 donation ) to get us back on track, otherwise we may have folded.
Thanks in advance for thinking of donating.
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Post by Graham Wood on Mar 23, 2023 14:35:52 GMT
Malvern KIT CAR SHOW 2023 - WITH 2 PLOTS AND PRIME LOCATION.
I hope my efforts will prove fruitful as being in contact with Peter at the show organisers, have secured 2 plots and is right next to the paying public entrance ( and exit ) so everyone that goes in and out WILL pass the Eagle stand.
But I hope that my efforts wont be in vain, and Eagles will turn up, so that at the next event the organises dont take away our spot for 12 cars ( club tents take up 2 car spaces ). for lack of use.
Unfortunately, with the plots being next to the entrance, camping on site is not welcome by the organisers, but camp site is only 20 m away ( 65 foot ). However, we may ( only - may ) be able to hide 2 small tents behind the club tents, and trees, but no promises.
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Post by Dave D on Mar 24, 2023 13:43:22 GMT
Malvern KIT CAR SHOW 2023 - WITH 2 PLOTS AND PRIME LOCATION.
I hope my efforts will prove fruitful as being in contact with Peter at the show organisers, have secured 2 plots and is right next to the paying public entrance ( and exit ) so everyone that goes in and out WILL pass the Eagle stand.
But I hope that my efforts wont be in vain, and Eagles will turn up, so that at the next event the organises dont take away our spot for 12 cars ( club tents take up 2 car spaces ). for lack of use.
Unfortunately, with the plots being next to the entrance, camping on site is not welcome by the organisers, but camp site is only 20 m away ( 65 foot ). However, we may ( only - may ) be able to hide 2 small tents behind the club tents, and trees, but no promises.
Map of site below.
Well done Graham. I hope we can get a good turnout for the show ( even if some cars have to arrive on a trailer! ).
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Post by Graham Wood on Mar 24, 2023 14:57:15 GMT
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Post by Charlie Francis on Mar 24, 2023 18:34:21 GMT
unfortunately mine wont be ready for this Year, but will hopefully be in a showable condition for next Year, even if its not totally finished. I assume if a vehicle is being shown you would need to turn up prior to the show and then not be able to move it until after the last day ?
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