Graham Wood
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Post by Graham Wood on May 20, 2022 14:34:34 GMT
www.facebook.com/eagle.owners ( note - eagle dot owners ) Barry HargreavesEagle Owners
Selling his EAGLE RV Hardtop mould. Believed to be a factory mould - certainly professionally made production quality with all the correct return flanges etc £400 collection from Nr Calne, Wiltshire
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Post by Peter on May 23, 2022 10:41:00 GMT
If only the club had the space and funds to 'rescue' such items.
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Post by nickyjuk on May 24, 2022 13:02:07 GMT
Does anyone know what happened to the body moulds for the RV and SS? I'm asking out off curiosity, not an intention to restart production!
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Post by Jam-Man on May 24, 2022 13:58:34 GMT
I would be happy to put 100 in towards it but could not store it if that helps
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Post by jamman on May 24, 2022 13:59:57 GMT
Signed in correctly now :-) I would be happy to put 100 towards it but could not store it if that helps?
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Graham Wood
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Post by Graham Wood on May 24, 2022 15:31:34 GMT
Does anyone know what happened to the body moulds for the RV and SS? I'm asking out off curiosity, not an intention to restart production!
In 2005 the rights (and the dormant moulds) to the Eagle SS were rescued from a Kent boat yard by Tim Naylor of TEAC Sports Cars. Unfortunately, Tim was unable to raise sufficient interest in the revised mid-engine MkIV SS based on a Toyota MR2 donor which was exhibited at Stoneleigh in 2006, and the project has since been sold on eBay in 2010 to a buyer in Wexford.
RV moulds have been destroyed. They were seized when the company making the panels went bust, and the moulds belonged to Eagle, and not the bankrupt company, and I hear, they have since been scrapped.
Since then TEAC has ceased to exist and all trace of the SS moulds have disappeared, The RV moulds were apparently seized by bailiffs and have also vanished, all attempts to trace the whereabouts of all Eagle moulds has drawn a blank as of November 2012. Anyone knowing where they are should contact the Eagle Owners Club.
SS moulds bought in 2010 from Teac, and no trace can be found since 2012.. Probably bought and owner died, maybe.
The '''Eagle SS''' was a kitcar produced between 1981 and 1988.
As with so many of its kit car brethren, the dramatic bodywork of the Eagle SS hid humble VW Beetle underpinnings. The bodywork was from glass fibre-reinforced plastic (GFRP), molded in a single colour. The total weight of a finished SS was promised to be around 750 kg (1,653 lb), which meant performance was considerably improved over that of a standard Beetle. A top speed of 200 km/h (124 mph) with a tuned VW engine was also promised. The most obvious difference to the Cimbria, upon which the Eagle SS was based, was the Cimbria's flip-up headlights: Eagle chose to equip their version with round, rear-folding headlights in the style of the Porsche 928.
Three basic versions were produced; MkI, had a separate internal roll cage, long nose, windows hinged at the front edge. Both bonnet and boot lids had ribbed sections, boot lid ribs could be opened up as louvers for better air flow for the VW engine if desired. MkII went through the most changes it has a shorter removable nose section, built in roll cage on later models and the addition of a Ford based model, longer side windows hinged from front bottom and top corners. Ford versions had the bump on the bonnet to accommodate the engine and later version had smooth boot lids with the ribs removed. MkIII, back to one piece nose, slightly higher roof, both versions now had built in steel bars to the cabin area. Side windows as MkII.
Chassis was an unshortened version at 2,400 mm (94.5 in), while the car was 4,240 mm (166.9 in) long, 1,780 mm (70.1 in) wide, and a mere 1,040 mm (40.9 in) high. First mentioned in 1984, a targa-roofed 2+2-seater version called the '''2 Plus''' was also available, with only a slight weight penalty.
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Graham Wood
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Post by Graham Wood on May 24, 2022 15:57:17 GMT
Signed in correctly now :-) I would be happy to put 100 towards it but could not store it if that helps? Thank you.
BUT,, and a big but,
I hear there were 2 slightly different moulds for the roof, and how many do we think we could sell, if we got the one that was in most demand: If it's the wrong one, we wont sell any !
How many would we sell ? without glass, ( sides and rear ), and fittings ---- 4 ? -- -- -- so, to buy / transport / repair / would cost about £ 800, which has to be added to the sale price. £ 800 divided by 4 = £ 200 on top of manufacturing cost + delivery. - Not economically viable for anyone when we don't know how many could be sold. Would have to be bought by someone who has an R.V. - to check the fit, etc etc.
Envisage £ 240 for days labour, ( but over 2 days ) and £ 110 materials + £ 200 capital cost = £ 500 , but allow for £ 650 and find your ownwindows & fittings. You may have only paid £ 1000 for the car + restoration.
it looks like a home made mould with just enough pipe work to "try" and keep it square, so is probably a knock off.
R.a.M. Chairman.
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Graham Wood
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User name = RAM
Posts: 531
Location, Town please: Southport, U.K.
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Post by Graham Wood on May 26, 2022 11:30:36 GMT
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Just to let you know it's safe to download.
Probably because its a commercial site ( Dot Com ) and there is no SSL protection. An SSL certificate is a digital certificate that authenticates a website's identity and enables an encrypted connection.
SSL stands for Secure Sockets Layer.
I don't collect data or credit cards ec, so no need to pay for SSL
Could just be Firefox, as I do get more alerts than other Browsers.
AND site is Case Sensitive ( HISTORY.doc )
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Post by Peter on May 27, 2022 12:36:31 GMT
And that is why there is no MkIV and Tim Naylor lost his shirt, (all we got after spending a fortune at Stoneleigh was stupid remarks about the concept car not being symmetrical, (wasn't meant to be, it had options for comments, left and right being different, and having a flimsy chassis, when it was not a chassis, just kept the engine and front subframe in place) and the Malaysian Moon GT died (at $16,000 for basic body and glass, plus seats, trim, running gear, shipping ($1,200)) and why attendance at shows is dwindling, it is just too darn expensive to have a car based hobby these days, much less one that is a money pit and takes up a lot of time and space and people are struggling to make ends meet as society demands the latest, biggest, phone, car, house, etc.
Would anyone today pay AT LEAST 16,000 for a updated SS for Japanese sports car gear? I think not and that is proven by the lack of sales by Poly-Creations in Belgium who have body, bonnet, boot and door moulds for the SS and complete Novas, amongst others.
A LOT of owners are in the " Liked it, bought it, built/restored it, drove it, lost interest and sold/broke/dumped it" or family and life in general got in the way categories and many are just rotting in sheds and back yards. Very sad.
Remember when life was fun and one didn't sit glued to rubbish on the TV 6 hours a night?
400 is a bit steep for something rotting under weeds in the back yard and will not sell for that, 200 maybe-
Anyone with a RV roof and a bit of time could make a mould for 100 and I have been trying to get someone to do that for YEARS, doors too and when someone actually does come up with the goods after a dozen owner/builders cry out for parts like screens from Pilkington or door seals, handles, etc, the take up is zero.
Rant over
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Post by Peter on May 27, 2022 12:42:39 GMT
I don't know what happened to the "history page" but it is back on. I will do an edit soon as a little new stuff has come to light in the last two years.
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