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Post by baloo on Mar 12, 2018 20:56:04 GMT
hi
yes after you press reply
on the top right of screen is a button that says add attachment
press that
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Post by baloo on Mar 12, 2018 20:57:16 GMT
next screen press "add files"
that will take you to a screen that shows all your files/pics
click on which ever pic you want to use
then click open when the blue loading bar goes green click done and then post
sounds harder than it is
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Post by jamman on Mar 12, 2018 20:59:16 GMT
I feel eaxactly the same. I need to put 5 inches i think it is in the rear load bay. I am cutting mine on an angle from the top front corner of the load bay down to the sill ahead of the arch. That way I can correct another moulding issue I have seen on just about every rv I have ever seen. Although admittedly that is not many! It seems they let the loadxarea droop when they made the mould. So now I can bring it back up square. Just planning out many extra body support brackets now after what Terry said yesterday!
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Post by baloo on Mar 12, 2018 21:02:37 GMT
I feel eaxactly the same. I need to put 5 inches i think it is in the rear load bay. I am cutting mine on an angle from the top front corner of the load bay down to the sill ahead of the arch. That way I can correct another moulding issue I have seen on just about every rv I have ever seen. Although admittedly that is not many! It seems they let the loadxarea droop when they made the mould. So now I can bring it back up square. Just planning out many extra body support brackets now after what Terry said yesterday! yer my arse end sags a little just thought it was my age lol
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Post by baloo on Mar 12, 2018 21:03:59 GMT
I just realised you are on phone, not sure if button is there, will look
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Post by jamman on Mar 12, 2018 21:12:45 GMT
Cheers :-)
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Post by baloo on Mar 12, 2018 21:28:39 GMT
cant see the button on my phone,
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Post by jamman on Mar 12, 2018 21:30:21 GMT
Thats ok then. I feel better now :-) Thanks for checking...
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Post by baloo on Mar 12, 2018 21:31:00 GMT
just sent you a message
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Post by baloo on Mar 12, 2018 22:09:00 GMT
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Post by jamman on Mar 12, 2018 22:25:03 GMT
Well thank you Baloo :-)
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Post by baloo on Mar 13, 2018 19:37:02 GMT
well I found an hour after work to fiddle with the rv body it sits on the Suzuki chassis nicely but up front not so good, I knew the front wheel arch would want moving back a couple of inches to get the wheel to sit in the centre, that's easy to do but the bit I don't like is it leaves to much projection at the front, true I could just zip it off with the grinder but then its not an unmodified chassis and rather misses the point I think a jeep needs to have the wheel right at the front to look jeepy Jamman how much chassis does a frontera have in front of the front wheel ? I might need to switch track here
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Post by jamman on Mar 13, 2018 19:59:37 GMT
Hi Baloo. Fronty has surprisingly little. I will try to take a pic of mine tonight. Even though it still has the fronty body on I hope I will get a decent pic. Strikes me you have the same issue as me to be honest. I plan to sit the front of the body over the front wheel correctly which will resolve your front end issue cos your wheel does look too far back in the front wheel arch. Then i will cut the body, position the rear part over the rear wherl correctly then make a jig to align the two body parts whilst i glass them together. Modifying the chassis is ok if your rv is already registered, but not if you want to legally pass it as a vitara with a bodykit which is how dvla legally interprets it on an un modified chassis. The definition of that i believe is that you may add to it but substantial alterations between the wheelbase or chopping it about between axles not allowed.
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Post by baloo on Mar 13, 2018 20:36:14 GMT
Hi Baloo. Fronty has surprisingly little. I will try to take a pic of mine tonight. Even though it still has the fronty body on I hope I will get a decent pic. Strikes me you have the same issue as me to be honest. I plan to sit the front of the body over the front wheel correctly which will resolve your front end issue cos your wheel does look too far back in the front wheel arch. Then i will cut the body, position the rear part over the rear wherl correctly then make a jig to align the two body parts whilst i glass them together. Modifying the chassis is ok if your rv is already registered, but not if you want to legally pass it as a vitara with a bodykit which is how dvla legally interprets it on an un modified chassis. The definition of that i believe is that you may add to it but substantial alterations between the wheelbase or chopping it about between axles not allowed. hi unfortunately positioning the body so as the front wheels are in the correct position wont work as the radiator and fans would then be outside the front grill and yes don't want to chop the chassis wether its between the wheelbase or front or rear overhang will result in iva pic of front overhang would be good if that's possible, is an Isuzu trooper the same thing ?
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Post by jamman on Mar 13, 2018 21:25:00 GMT
I just realised I told you complete bollocks :-) But I am sure u realised that already... If your rear wheels fot the arch but your front ones are against the back of the rv body then your chassis is too short not too long. That is a real problem. I didnt realise swb fronty was that much bigger than a Vitara. I believe swb trooper has the same chassis but please dont rely on that cos the fronterawas sold as an isuzu mu in the rest of the world and the trooper was the next one up. But i have looked under a swb trooper and it looked the same to me...
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Post by baloo on Mar 14, 2018 12:29:29 GMT
hi thanks for pictures of frontera chassis looks like you will have similar issues looks like the front body mount is 8" in front of front wheel if it is then it will be out in front of the grill ?
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Post by jamman on Mar 14, 2018 12:45:46 GMT
Yes indeed. I noticed the front mount is too far forward too. Easy enough to relocate the mounting positions though. I plan to add more in any case as grp needs way more than asteel shell does if only to spread the load.
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Post by jamman on Mar 14, 2018 15:52:51 GMT
I just noticed the steering rack shaft comes in on a funny angle too. I think it is just within limits in terms of being too far forwardcor not, but it will be tight. I have sent you a picture Baloo.
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Post by baloo on Mar 14, 2018 16:32:54 GMT
I just noticed the steering rack shaft comes in on a funny angle too. I think it is just within limits in terms of being too far forwardcor not, but it will be tight. I have sent you a picture Baloo. wow busy engine bay, looks a lot of stuff in there, it will all become clear once you get the body on I guess I could move the front mounting back a little wouldn't be much of a job, I could make it all work if I moved the engine and box back 6" or so but that's quite a bit of work with the exhaust prop shafts sump radiator etc etc don't know which way I am going to go at present
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Post by jamman on Mar 14, 2018 16:58:40 GMT
For me getting the wheels located correctly in the wheel arches is primary and then I work everuthing around that. I dont plan on moving the engineas it all sits perfectly in the fronty with respect to the rv engine bay. I do expect to move most of the body mounting points and adding several more and I expect to trim the chassis legs back. I will use a custom winch plate/ box section which will act as the front chassis crossmember which will tidy things up nicely. It will have a drop down pulley link hidden under the winch plate so it can winch itself backwards up to a 25 degree angle either side of straight as well.
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Post by baloo on Mar 14, 2018 17:06:23 GMT
For me getting the wheels located correctly in the wheel arches is primary and then I work everuthing around that. I dont plan on moving the engineas it all sits perfectly in the fronty with respect to the rv engine bay. I do expect to move most of the body mounting points and adding several more and I expect to trim the chassis legs back. I will use a custom winch plate/ box section which will act as the front chassis crossmember which will tidy things up nicely. It will have a drop down pulley link hidden under the winch plate so it can winch itself backwards up to a 25 degree angle either side of straight as well. yep I don't want to move the engine and box either maybe I will look for a cheap fronty
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Post by baloo on Mar 15, 2018 19:09:15 GMT
if I moved the front body mounts back a few inches I would probably get away with it not sure the grill will go back far enough with the rad there though, guess I could move it forward a tadge like the newer ones
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Post by baloo on Mar 16, 2018 8:52:39 GMT
ok I think I have given up trying to use a swb vitara it seems to be 89" wheelbase while the eagle RV seems to be 94.5" well nearer to 95" on the one side lol so abounded outside the toy cupboard is this with a terminal engine problem and its diesel old style diesel smelly slow so just measured the wheel base and it appears to be 97" closer to the RV I could just let the front wheels sit 2" or so further in the front arches or I could add a couple of inches into the shell, probably in the door way like thus I doubt anyone would notice if I added in a couple of inches ? might screw my doors up if I ever find a hard top lol
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Post by trike on Mar 16, 2018 10:54:18 GMT
Rather than cutting in the middle and then having to modify doors,roof etc. why not cut between the screen and bonnet and just move the nose section forwards?
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Post by balooo on Mar 16, 2018 19:46:00 GMT
Rather than cutting in the middle and then having to modify doors,roof etc. why not cut between the screen and bonnet and just move the nose section forwards? well that has merit although it goes against my view that the front is to long anyway, all so its a lot more work to make a mould for the scuttle panel all the way up and over where as the small sill bit will work for both sides, I was just having a look at the swb again and maybe if I take 4" out of the scuttle panel it would work out more pondering to do me thinks
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Post by jamman on Mar 16, 2018 22:05:17 GMT
I thought about making the doors longer too but ai think it would make the rear end look even shorter then. Which is why I have chosen to cut just behind the door opening just ahead of the wheelarch. That way I get an extra few inches in my load area which gives me a bit more legroom for the frontera sport folding rear seat legroom. Trickier to stretch the shell there admittedly, but worth the effort ai think. Who knows。。。 it all depends where you prefer the different look to be.
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Post by jamman on Mar 16, 2018 22:07:09 GMT
That looks like a great donor Baloo. I bet it has a lovely chassis perfect for the job... You can change the engine to anything you want totally legally too...
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Post by baloo on Mar 17, 2018 17:50:33 GMT
ok I have a plan I am going to stick with the swb vitara chassis the chassis is 4" too short which only really shows up in the front wheel arch as the wheel is to far back I am going to shorten the body by 4" in the scuttle area just in front of the windscreen I favour this route as I have always thought the front end of a jeep looked to long so it will fix that as well side view of my red RV and by the amazing use of a pair of scissors how it will look with 4" out of the scuttle I am of course talking about chopping my old blue body not the red one above
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Post by baloo on Mar 17, 2018 19:31:38 GMT
having cut bits out of the blue shell its apparent that back then things were a bit lax to say the least, I also have a much later pilgrim made eagle, the difference between the shells is like night and day as I am going to chop the blue one in half I think I will make a box section section steel frame to keep it all square er or rather to make it square lol when I cut it the bits I removed tell a story , some bits were an inch thick yet still dry and fluffy, never seen a splash of resin in their life well that's probably about it here, will start a build thread when I chop the shell Andy
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Post by terryrob on Mar 25, 2018 8:34:28 GMT
Plenty going on here, one thing comes to mind with shortening the scuttle, its gonna make fitting pedals a bit tight unless you are going to extend into the engine bay. What do you have in mind.
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