Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2013 23:10:29 GMT
Hi all
After a long hard struggle my rv has finally arrived! Being held at my dads so he took some pictures (bad ones) which I shall get up soon. Can't wait to start work on the old girl now.
|
|
|
Post by biggles1 on Dec 16, 2013 9:05:03 GMT
Glad you've got it at last. Look forward to seeing the picture.
John
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2013 23:03:14 GMT
Hi John Here she is looking a little but going to be spending time over Christmas on her.
|
|
|
Post by Peter on Dec 18, 2013 8:59:20 GMT
That is a nice looking RV, not too much to do and I would humbly suggest you leave well alone where possible and just enjoy it. Good dose of T cut looks in order. What's the inside look like and what's under the bonnet? E.O.C. Register FRV80
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2013 12:46:31 GMT
Yes my intention for now was to leave as is and drive it and enjoy it. Although next year I did consider doing an Essex or cologne conversion. The t cut shall be well in play by the weekend providing the weather holds out.
At the minute it's questionable as to what the engine is. The log book says a 1600 pinto yet the previous owner has told me it's a 2000 pinto so will grab an engine number and run a check on it. Interior is very basic at the mo. I'll grab some pictures. There are no seats yet and am in decisive as to what to fit and the dash board is the standard sierra dash. This in time shall be changed too.
What would you guys reckon the value of the rv is?
|
|
|
Post by Peter on Dec 18, 2013 18:32:26 GMT
Glad to hear you are not just going to rip into it. Drive and enjoy. Seat wise the worlds your oyster, just about anything will fit. Engine numbers on the E.O.C. tech page in case you didn't know.
|
|
|
Post by Gary on Dec 18, 2013 22:29:55 GMT
I wouldn't use T-Cut as the ammonia in it damaged the gel coat the reaction causes very faint pitting in the surface (which makes a great home for all the crap, salt and water off the roads. If it been painted then ignore this as it doesn't affect paint in the same way.
I use Farecla G3 and Farecla G10 cutting compounds as these are glass fibre safe. They do cost a little more but in my opinion work faster and give a much better finish to the gel coat which isn't damaged.
I have used 3m marine restorer and wax and it gives a great finish in one process but it is even more expensive.
|
|
|
Post by biggles1 on Dec 19, 2013 8:20:29 GMT
Well, it looks all there and tidy too. Very nice. Shouldn't take too much to get it useable. Look forward to seeing it take shape. As far as value goes, it's a tough one. They never sell for what they are worth in my opinion.
John
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2013 16:05:23 GMT
I use t cut as a generic term. I too use farcela (years of being a valeter and basic car body repairer). I also use the meguiars 3 stage cleaning/polishing system too which I think is absolutely brilliant.
I shall give her a good going over just after Xmas. Have just had a huge amount of work come in for the next few days so am now pre occupied!
Can't wait to get her on the road. Any ideas for some original style seats keeping with the image?
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2013 16:06:46 GMT
Well, it looks all there and tidy too. Very nice. Shouldn't take too much to get it useable. Look forward to seeing it take shape. As far as value goes, it's a tough one. They never sell for what they are worth in my opinion. John And no John I agree they don't. Their values seem to be up and down and seems to be catching people at the right time. Have no intention on selling for some time though. My dad has brought a dj-5 which we are rebuilding too that has a 3.8 straight 6 which sounds awesome.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2013 23:01:19 GMT
I'm sure I know the builder and might be able to put you in touch!
|
|
|
Post by scooby on Dec 20, 2013 14:25:51 GMT
Nice one, UK!
What needs doing to make it roadworthy - or is it already?
As said above about seats, the production car world is your oyster. The RV is a roomy car, so most manufacturer's car seats will fit. Having said that, you do need to watch out for narrowness caused by the roll-over bar.
What type of seats are in there at the moment? I'd suggest you simply sit in these and decide what more you want over them; more padding? Width? Adjustment? Is the jeep going to be a mud-slugger? If so, do you want vinyl/ easy-clean covers?
Any seats going in the back? If so, you'll find space more limited so rear seats from most production cars will need modifying (cutting down)a fair amount, and this can be tricky to do neatly.
In general, tho', I'd say go big and comfy! The Renault seats that came in my own jeep are really good this way, tho' they don't have any adjustment other than recline.
Under the seat you'll find a fibreglass 'box' moulded in to the RV's floor. This gives a good raised base ideal for a limited number of seats, most likely after-market seats designed for 'kits'. If you want to use production car seats, you'll almost certainly find these 'boxes' too high, so they'll need cutting down and re-glassing.
I've been very lucky in managing to source a full set of Vitara seats, and I'll be fitting these as soon as I have time. The rear seats fold up completely, so will allow the back to be a load-carrier or provide actual seating space. The front seats have different height rails underneath, so I've made blocks to level them out. They will need the glass-fibre boxes to be cut down nearly flush with the floor, but that's no great heartache.
In keeping with the car's image, definitely big comfy chairs, and not after-market 'buckets' or sports type, I'd say. Have a good look around a local scrappy!
(The Honda RAV and many Suzukis tend to have fully-folding rear seats. Another type of car to look at is MPVs such as the Zafira, Galaxy, and such like. You'll very likely find the '3rd-row' seats are ideal for fitting into the back of the RV, and they'll match the front ones.)
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2013 8:06:54 GMT
I'm sure I know the builder and might be able to put you in touch! Cactus that would be brilliant if you could please.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2013 8:11:50 GMT
Scooby,
There are no seats in there at the moment. It has had something in there as there are holes drilled but the guy I got it from never got round to fitting any seats to use it.
I think vitara/jimny seats could be a good shout. She won't be an off roader, she'll be used on road only so vinyl/leather seats won't be strictly necessary. Bucket sport seats are also well out the question. Someone did suggest some seats out of a land rover series 1/2/3 as they're cheap, vinyl and keeping with the jeep image.
Going to put her through an mot just after Xmas. From what I've seen so far she will need minimal work to get her on the road.
|
|
|
Post by scooby on Dec 21, 2013 12:11:54 GMT
I'd suggest simply having a look around a local scrappy, then!
If you tie yourself to a particular make of seat, you'll likely give yourself a harder task. Landie seats may well be very suitable - I don't know - but I think you'd do yourself a disservice ruling out others. If you reckon you don't need 'vinyl', then I'd avoid it - cloth/velour is far more pleasant to sit on, especially come next summer when the sun hits your seats!
If you just keep your eyes open, and have a good look in through the window of every parked car you see (cough), you'll soon pick up on which makes have the best-looking seats. Some will have overly-patterned fabrics which are a no-no. Others will look too 'plump', round-edged and wide. But you'll find many which are crisply-styled whilst still being very comfy (I'd fit the ones from my Zafira in a heart-beat.)
Don't forget the all-important rear seats; if you just want casual rear-passenger/children use in the back, then the smaller ones from the usual 'Jeep-style' vehicles should be ideal - the Suzukis and Hondas, etc. Similarly - as mentioned before - the 3rd row seats from many MPVs.
Also have a gander how they are fitted to the vehicle's floorpan - you ideally want flat, level fixings, one at each end of each rail. But, don't rule out a cracking set of seats just because the fixings will require a bit more work.
When you look inside your completed RV, 2 things will immediately mark out its perceived quality - the dashboard and the seats. Worth getting right.
Once you settle on a few suitable makes and models, do a search on eBay for each type and 'save' the search according to 'nearest'. Sit back and wait...
(Unless you have a good near-by scrappy, of course.)
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2013 0:03:25 GMT
So I've managed to pinch a set of leather recaros from a sierra cossie on a long term loan from a friend! That should do for a while.
Appears I have some major earthing issues on the rv with the dashboard looking like a Christmas tree (very apt for the festive season). Managed to get her running today. Had a blockage on the carb (main I let pipe wasn't allowing fuel into the float chamber). Misfires ever so slightly, fitted a new condensir and points today but didn't have my feeler gauge to hand to space them. Has a new dizzy too. Need to replace the leads, plugs and rotor arm. Then need to investigate the carb as when she's warmed up she starves of fuel when idling. Doesn't get a constant flow of fuel, almost as if it squirts through an amount, burns it, goes to cut out then squirts through another load. Any ideas? I have the ford automatic choke single barrel fitted.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2013 0:19:14 GMT
|
|
|
Post by terryrob on Dec 28, 2013 17:24:15 GMT
Wow thats cleaned up well, should see you with this at stoneleigh this year. as for seats, if you have long legs (like me) you will need your seats to be able to fit between the trans tunnel and the roll cage, about 20" !. You should find the engine size on the side of the block. Good luck.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2013 18:05:44 GMT
Thank you. I think it has too. When is stoneleigh? I've got a bit more to do on it before she's ready. New water pump and thermostat, new bushes up front and engine mount. Couple of other bits like sorting bad earths then that should be it.
And yes I do have long legs! Managed to borrow a set of cosworth leather recaros on a long term loan for it. They sit nicely but don't go that for back!
|
|
|
Post by Peter on Dec 29, 2013 18:57:04 GMT
Stoneleigh is always on May bank hol' weekend. with only a handful of eagles on the road at the moment anyone who can get their there will be much appreciated. Peter
|
|
|
Post by scooby on Dec 29, 2013 18:57:46 GMT
Hi Eagle.
I've had similar bad earths to you, seemingly. Some really weird goings-on with the dashboard lights. Traced to the column light switches not having an 'earth' connector to the spade on the right-hand stalk (lights/wipers) and also an earth for the Cortina clock cluster not being, well, earthed.
I ended up taking a sturdy wire from the engine block to the metal square-box-section bar that runs under the dashboard cowl - this box-section has three bolts going through it and the fibreglass 'valance' between the screen and the bonnet; you know that flat body bit where the washers are mounted? Having earthed this metal box-section tube, all my other earth requirements go to that.
If your leccy does 'weird' things, then it'll almost certainly be an 'earth' fault. Poor earths force power go through other circuits - with strange results...
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2013 19:49:36 GMT
Cheers pete. I will do my best to be there. Think my dad will probably join me in his jeep cj-5.
Scooby thats exactly what is happening. I'm an auto spark by trade so should be able to trace it back but i will most definately use your info as a starting point as that is what is happening at the moment. My headlights etc are doing weird and wonderful things and the gauges and warning lights on the dash are going potty!
Thank you so much for your help so far guys. Test ran her around the estate where our unit is and think me diff is welded too.
|
|
|
Post by terryrob on Dec 29, 2013 23:34:00 GMT
People assume theres loads of room for seats in an RV, but its the roll cage thats the problem. Mine is an early model and I have added some chassis under the floor and reshaped the roll cage to a similar position as the later ones. My seats are out of a Rover 100 (metro) and just fit when right back. I suppose maybe Micra or panda seats would be ok.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2013 0:52:16 GMT
Yes space is tight. The recaros just go in but these are temporary until I source something suitable. With rear seats is there a mounting frame that can be brought to fit them too for the rv?
|
|
|
Post by Peter on Dec 30, 2013 9:50:57 GMT
I dread to suggest it but what about Jap' mini van like the Suzuki Carry (Bedford Rascal), Nissan Vannette etc.
|
|
|
Post by scooby on Dec 30, 2013 11:00:44 GMT
Ah - the Bedford Rascal! That donor of many seats for narrow-cockpit kits such as the Marlin...
I think they'd look wrong in the RV, tho', as they are pretty skinny-looking in all respects.
That darned roll-over bar does make a big difference, but don't forget that seat side squabs are squishy, and you don't necessarily need a 'gap' there betwixt the seat and bar as such - tho' it is desirable, I guess. But, once you position your seat, it basically stays in one position anyway.
My RV currently has really comfy Renault seats fitted, and these do press against the roll bar a bit. The only actually hassle with this is that the seat belt tries to come up between the two, so it makes it harder to pull. Other than that, tho', it isn't actually a problem that they touch - and the seats are really comfy...
Without running out to check, I think my replacement Vitara seats are slightly narrower so will hopefully not fit as tightly.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2013 16:24:06 GMT
Pete I see where your going with that (my dad had a hijet and yes the seats are tiny!) but think I'm with scooby on this one. Think they might look out of place. My mate said he has some jimny seats which I may give a go and see how they fit. On the note of renaults, was thinking of looking around for some Renault 19 seats or clio rsi seats from the earlier model. They were very comfy from what I remember (in the day of being a boy! Still am a boy just more grown up with a slightly, only slight, more sensible head haha) in my clio and you sat very snug in them without that silly bucket seat look!
Just got my new water pump and thermostat too. Still debating whether to replace my mechanical fuel pump or convert to electric. The vv carb is temperamental enough as it is so not sure whether I'm opening a can of worms.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2013 18:53:41 GMT
Seats - Fiesta seats fit a treat and there's a range of colours and styles to choose from. I've taken these out now and replaced them with a pair of half leather buckets from a MGZS. Ideally if you're fitting rear seats then the seats from the MGZR are better than those from a ZS.....tip forward whereas the ZS ones are fixed. Snug, comfortable and cheap as chips at the moment.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2013 19:15:49 GMT
Currently have some Sierra cosworth leather seats in mine, but just a bit big really.
Will be fitting seats from an MGTF in the new year.
On the earthing issue, I fitted a metal bar in the passenger footwell backing onto the engine bay, then fitted an earth from the engine to this, then fit wires to this for an earth. Quick an easy solution :-).
|
|
|
Post by scooby on Jan 1, 2014 15:53:45 GMT
Hmmmm, MGTF seats.
Yes - these are a bit narrower than those of most cars, and can be really stylish and comfy too. And they have flat-mounting rails.
I bought a pair a few years back for another kit I was hoping to do up - an NG Henley. The MG TF's seats were one of the few fro a production car that would fit in the kit's tighter cockpit, and I gave them away with the kit when I sold it a few months back - so I could concentrate on the eagle...
What would you do for rear seats in this case? Does the MG TF have a small matching dicky seat in the back you could use? Or would you have to buy 2 matching pairs of front seats?
|
|