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Post by eagleone on Dec 10, 2008 20:32:08 GMT
Hello to you all, I've had numerous requests for replacement SS windscreens & have recently managed to sort the basics of a potential order with a manufacturing company. As there is a minimum order quantity of new screens, I need definate commitment from interested owners before I can go any further. The 'ball park' figure for the cost of a new screen is around £375-£400, (although I will try my best to get this lower if possible). If you are interested, then could you please respond to this thread & I will get back to you with actual costs. Thanks, Best regards, Tim TEAC
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Post by Peter on Dec 11, 2008 10:29:04 GMT
Good one Tim, Now you guys, years of bitching you can't get screens, now's your chance and let stop chopping up SSs for their screens.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2008 15:10:10 GMT
I definately need one, my car is all ready for an MOT all I need is that magic windscreen!! How many are needed for the order?
Ollie.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2008 9:01:04 GMT
If it speeds things up put me down for 2 screens.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2009 13:15:59 GMT
i got a whole car for sale with windscreen out of the car....... check the other thread on who's got what for a quick description of what im selling....... alex
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Post by chrisbailey on Feb 16, 2009 14:37:46 GMT
we realy need a update from teac again, the minute we think we are getting somewhere it all goes quite again. would be nice to see the teac site updated.
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Post by mell0rman on Apr 14, 2009 20:25:37 GMT
While searching ebay I came across an Eagle SS for sale Item number: 180344902175 it has a smashed windscreen but in the description was the following.
The windscreen is a flat windscreen, I have the number of a local guy to me who can do a replacement windscreen at a good price.
I have asked the seller if he could provide any contact details for this local guy (Upminster, Essex) If I get any response I will contact for a price and post the details
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2009 10:33:59 GMT
I've given up on getting a proper SS windsreens and have now modified mine so it will take a flat windscreen. Did take a while to change the surround but the glass only costed £100 (laminated)
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Post by Peter on Apr 18, 2009 10:42:04 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2009 15:07:13 GMT
I've given up on getting a proper SS windsreens and have now modified mine so it will take a flat windscreen. Did take a while to change the surround but the glass only costed £100 (laminated) sounds interesting ,,, got any pics of the conversion ?? i think someone did this before , i am sure i red it somewhere, cant wait to see ,, is it going stonliegh ?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2009 10:30:09 GMT
Dont think it will get to Stoneleigh unfortunatly however when I've stuck it all together I'll put photos on. just hope it will all work!!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2009 14:16:22 GMT
its a pity really ,and after you offered to buy 2 windscreens too ,, i do know that a nova screen will fit at the top and the sides ;Dbut the bottom curve is too big to fit in the bottom seat ,and is too low by about 2 inches , :-/it may be a better idea to buy a nova screen and modify the window seat to fit that , it may require movement of the wiper stud depending where it is drilled , at least you are cracking on and getting something done ,, i know you have had the car for ages now and been looking for a screen for years ,, if i come across anything i will let you know ,, you could try a letter to complete kitcar and beg them to start a search for the screen mould worth a try , jason
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Post by mell0rman on Dec 13, 2009 9:52:54 GMT
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Post by mell0rman on Dec 15, 2009 21:57:30 GMT
Does anyone know if polycarbonate can be used as a windscreen? I'm not talking a triple layer type as used on conservatory roofs, but single sheet type 5mm think and clear. I heard this can be bullet proof strong and can bend to allow for curves. It seems to be used on motorbike and aircraft. I've also heard that it scratches easily and that Acrylic sheet would be more suitable. Had a quick look at the MOT rules but only found points on chips and stickers obscuring vision
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Post by Peter on Dec 16, 2009 16:33:06 GMT
Short answer is NO. must be laminated glass with a kite mark. This would not come under MoT but construction and use regs, as in VOSPA / SVA etc (so should the side and rear windows)
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Post by mell0rman on Dec 17, 2009 7:57:22 GMT
Thanks for the info . I'm interpreting this, that if the car has already passed the SVA. And requires just the MOT to get it back on the road. The MOT people should not fail it with a polycarbonate screen? As its not under the MOT regulations!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2009 14:35:42 GMT
Whether or not it would pass an MOT would IMHO be irrelevant. You really wouldn't want a screen made from Polycarb! I use it a bit in my work and while it's certainly tough, it tends to fog and scratch fairly easily. Think about it, if it was good enough to replace windscreens, every shop front would replace glass with polycarb. They don't because it doesn't give the clarity and longevity of glass. On a more practical point, trying to bend a 5mm (or even 3mm) sheet of polycarb to the same curve as an Eagle screen would require one helluva strong adhesive to hold it in place. You wouldn't want to be speeding down the motorway and have the screen ping out on you
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2009 10:30:02 GMT
From what we get told about on our car design course...it's not because the windscreens aren't up to he job. Racing cars have been using plastic windscreen for 50 years or so. If you wanted to go down the plastic route i'd find who does their windscreens and get them to make it. I would also do some research on the electric city cars manufacturers who are trying to make plastic windscreens legal as it cuts the weight of their cars by loads. From what we get told the most recent plastic windscreens don't have the scratch and fog issues, the reason they're not legal is that the screens are too strong (pretty much bullet proof) and make it difficult for firecrews to remove quickly in an accident.
....oh and wouldn't shops use glass coz it's much cheaper? Last time I went to buy a sheet of poly it was friking expensive.
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Post by mell0rman on Dec 18, 2009 13:22:38 GMT
Spoken to my local MOT testing station and they would not fail it with a polycarbonate windscreen. So thats good news for me . I have spoken to a plastics company who make screen for other things and they can make me one. I'm waiting for a reply back for a rough costing and what they would need from me. As the eagle is not an every day run around car, just a now and again car for nice days. I think it would do the job. I don't want to brake another eagle up that may come on ebay just for a windscreen. Its just wrong I guess if your car needed approving for the SVA test then you may have problems with this type of screen.
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Post by mell0rman on Dec 23, 2009 20:24:33 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2009 12:53:10 GMT
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Post by Peter on Dec 29, 2009 17:43:09 GMT
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Post by mell0rman on Jan 9, 2010 21:04:25 GMT
It does look nice in black that screen
I need to send over some dimensions of the windscreen, a couple of photo's so that the company can determine the amount of curvature of the screen and give me a rough price on the polyscreen. Anybody know a link to or have the exact dimensions of these screens? So that I could pass these details on? I tried searching but not found anything. There not easy to measure either with all the curves etc. I have measured but would not like to place an exact order with my measurements
I'm also taking the old glass screen to a another contact next weekend (if the snow allows). Will see what comes of that meeting !! if anything I will keep you posted.
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Post by mell0rman on Jan 18, 2010 12:56:37 GMT
I have a price on the polycarb screen Your looking around £550.00 + VAT per single unit (little bit cheaper if we can do multiples) and these would be a clear Lexan polycarbonate, thermoformed to shape, Hardcoated scratch resistant surface and the black obscurity border around the perimeter - I would need to be able to get hold of an original screen to take a mould from which i guess you have available. Its and option. Its an expensive option!
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Post by chrisbailey on Jan 18, 2010 13:41:23 GMT
thats alot of money, you could probly get a glass one for that. Nova site rekon you can get a screen copied for 150 quid, they read it in a magazine.
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Post by Peter on Jan 18, 2010 23:43:59 GMT
As my ol' dad said, "Believe half that you read n' none what you hear", about £450 + vat for Pilkington glass would be right
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2010 19:53:29 GMT
Hi, new to the kit car scene but i'm thinking of purchasing a car and would interested in all parts available including screens, would the screen be suitable for passing an MOT?
Thanks Mick.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2010 22:03:17 GMT
Just come across this thread and would urge you all to check your facts before splashing the cash.
Polycarbonate windscreens for road vehicles are NOT legal in the UK....period!! Whatever MOT tester/station says that they would pass a car with a polycarb front windscreen fitted needs to go back to testing school!! Whilst it may not be relevant to you vehicle but IVA also covers the issue.
According to the Motor Vehicle Construction and Use Regs. the front windscreen of a road legal cars needs to meet the requisite UK safety standard.........polycarbonate doesn't meet these standards. A windscreen you literally look through whilst driving needs to be made from either toughened or laminated glass of a specific thickness and "E" marked accordingly.
Polycarbonate also has additional problems, some of which have been alluded to in previous posts on this thread. The main problem areas are surface scratching, stress cracking through age and clouding over due to reaction to UVA/UVB etc.
The only exception is if the car was fitted with aero-screens or a fly screen which you effectively look over rather than through. This can be made from polycarbonate or similar material.
In my opinion there is no other answer but to get a manufacturer to produce a laminated screen from a pattern. I was quoted £400 for a Nova screen but this was about 10 years ago. Anybody that has a screen should guard it with their lives...are you listening Jon?
Good luck chris
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2010 22:40:13 GMT
Yes, but Tim still has mine!
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Post by Peter on Mar 6, 2010 11:41:35 GMT
Indeed he has, thank heaven
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